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  • Cable / Satellite TV and Internet Providers
  • From: Sean, July 10, 2007

Here is the site for Argentina Direct TV… http://www.directv.com.ar  (yes 1 T)  it’s amazing in BA and Mendoza how the apartment building are peppered with the Direct TV antennas – quite a sight – up and down the buildings – I’m not surprised – the cable companies suck so much – thinking they can change whatever they want any time without letting their customers know or consulting them…I hope Direct TV sends them a fat wake-up call

http://directv.users.wiroos.net/1_productos/promociones.php 

Their basic monthly price is 89.99 pesos – 

http://directv.users.wiroos.net/1_productos/121.php

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  • Call Blocking - How to register your phone to block unsolicited calls
  • From Claudio: July 31, 2012

You should dial 147 - option "registro no llame", now the GCBA simplified the process and you don't have to go anymore to the CGP, with the call is suposly enough.

Regards,

Claudio.

More info found on: http://www.buenosaires.gob.ar/consumidor

buenosaires.gob.ar-consumidor

Under catagory: Registro no llame
Protege tu linea de los llamados publicitarios

Simplified Instructions to get onto the Buenos Aires ‘No Call’ Registry

1. Dial 147 from your home phone.

2. When you hear the automated message, press number 6.

You’ll hear a message welcoming you to the "Registro No Llame"

3. Press #1 to enroll in the ‘No call’ registry for your telephone line.

Then you will be told it can take up to fifteen days for all unsolicited calls to stop, but we found it only took 3 days.

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  • Car Purchase
  • From: Sean, September 07, 2006

Re: We are tourists. We want to purchase a car. We have the easy papers (domocilio). Do we need a CUIL or CUIT? Or can we do it without? Thanks.

Historically speaking, you should just get a CDI (clave de identificaion ) from AFIP/DGI, at least, that’s what AFIP/DGI would like.

As a matter of current interest it would be good to see what your car dealer calls out for requirements and post it here if you can

    From: tango_kiwi, August 10, 2006

Having just bought a new car. You need CUIT and DNI

    From: Laura Zurro, August 11, 2006

Patricia, according to our dealer where we are considering buying, we only need our passport and our CDI nothing else. No Cuil or Cuit is neccessary. By the way if you don't buy from a dealer you might considr using the services of a reputable "gestores" who will take care of getting your car registered for you - much less headache for you.

    From: Patricia Bennett, August 14, 2006

Success! Only needed passport and CDI.

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  • Car Rentals
  • From: Katharine Pottinger, November 27, 2009

http://www.abbeyrentacar.com.ar/  - Abbey Rent a Car - my experiences have been good with them.  They are much better value than the international companies and you should barter a bit with them. 
 
Marcelo and Ana are the best people to speak to in my opinion.

abbeyrentacar

Katharine Pottinger

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  • Car Stereo Installation
  • From: carrie leigh porcel, August 30, 2006

I had a car stereo from the US installed at a place on Libertador, between Belgrano and Nuñez.  If you drive from Recoleta towards Nuñez, go through the tunnel and then after that it is between 5 and 10 blocks, on the left hand side. I can't remember the name, but it has a pretty big sign, I think that the back ground is Black, a ton of stereos in the window display and an entrance for you car, right next to the store front.  They did a good job installing my stereo and my husband's.  I would go back if I ever needed to do the same thing again.

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  • Carnaval in Gualeguaychú

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    From: Peter J. Macay, Feb 10, 2004

We had no problems buying tickets and finding a place to stay the day of the parade.  However, we didn't get front row seats like we did the first time we saw the parade.
 
We used the "V.I.P" services to get front row seats when we went the first time 2 years ago, this time "V.I.P" services was sold out of front row tables, so we got a table for 4 for 100 pesos further back.  It was ok, but when I complained, they gave me a brochure with some info on it for ordering on the phone.
 
Here's the info on the brochure
Ventas Maestra Piccini y Maipu
Corsodromo
Reservas al tel 03446-436228
Gualeguaychu - E. Rios
Casa de entre Rios, Suipacha 846, 4393-3732, 4328-9327
 
"V.I.P" services is across the street from the parade grounds.  There are trailers selling general admission seat tickets and there was LONG lines, we went across the street to the "V.I.P" services window and there was no wait, probably because the tickets are more expensive.  Ask to seat nearest the judging area, in the front row, the dancers always put on their best performance in front of the judge stand.
 
As far as accommodations, when you first drive into town there are information tent booths alongside the road, stop there for a map and information.  They give you some recommendations on places to stay.  How's your spanish?  There are tons of folks holding signs by the side of the road that have rooms to rent.  We met someone in front of the ticket booth and she took us to a woman's home, we paid 120 pesos for the house and the woman picked up her 2 kids and pet parakeet and left.  I felt bad, the kids were watching cartoons, playing with crayons, and we kicked them out of their house, I asked her where she was going and she said to her mothers, so I guess it was ok!
 
We did get information on a nice hotel for the next time we visit.  Aguay Hotel, 03446-422099, hotelaguay@ciudad.com.ar      http://www.hotelaguay.com.ar   The rates were pretty reasonable and it's beautiful, has a terrace pool, new, breakfast, etc.
 
The house we rented was the family Lopez 42-2231, 42-9353, the "friend" who was outside the ticket booth was Patricia 15-63-0654  Don't know where all the other numbers are!  The owner said we could recommend her house to friends, just tell her "Pete, Ron, Russell and Alberto sent you"
 
Good luck, it's a blast!

Carnaval pics with Gary and Colleen 2002

Carnaval pics with Russell and Alberto 2004

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  • Carpenter
  • From: Maureen Murphy, January 17, 2009

Someone just posted offering carpentry work =>

Re: looking for abanil/pintor and customs agent

That's nice timing - I was just about to post an ad noting that my husband Jorge is available for exactly that kind of work. He could do those things for you no problem, and though he's happy to travel the city to do work, we're in San Telmo too, so that might be perfect - I hope so!

Drop me a line maureenmurphy@yahoo.com or feel free to call him direct on 1532 763610.

More generally and in case anyone else has stuff needing doing that they haven't quite got round to, Jorge is very much available for carpentry, painting and maintenance and he's actively seeking work.

He's a trained carpenter with a UK City & Guilds qualification, and he's also excellent at most other aspects of house maintenance, including immaculately finished painting and decorating and any kind of odd jobs except electricals or plumbing. He has lots of experience from working in England for 10 years and he, naturally, speaks English.

He's conscientious, trustworthy and kind, and he can also help with any other kinds of fixer stuff you might need, from helping you to deal with tradesmen to getting all sorts of things done for you that you might not have time for.

He also makes wonderful stands for laptops - he makes them to measure and has been making them for me for years, whenever I've had a new computer. They save me from the dreaded laptop neck - he's put some pictures and an explanation here: http://jorgehadad.blogspot.com/

cheers all,
Claire.

    From: Ginger Gentile, December 15, 2007

I had a good experience with a carpenter, who showed up on time, did what was contracted to do, and even. . . insisted on giving me a factura! The first time any worker has offered to do so. my Argentine boyfriend was floored, as was I. We took it of course.

Charlie 1569162772

he´s a bit of a character but he is willing to do smaller jobs, such as resizing a window (which he did for me) which other carpenters won´t take.  he speaks only Spanish.

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  • Caterer for an Parrilla / BBQ / Asado
  • From: BANewComers - Richard July 20, 2005

About catering don't know much... here's a place you can start:  http://www.mercadofiesta.com.ar/ver.asp?r=4&c=17

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  • Catering Service - Picadas - Snack Trays For Parties
  • From: claudio, March 22, 2010

Claudio Javier López

RUCA NATIVA :: Picadas Argentinas
Recepciones - Cocktails - Eventos
http://www.rucanativa.com.ar 
(011) 4546.1283 – (011) 15.5703.4059

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    From: Peter J. Macay, March 22, 2010

I've been ordering party trays from Picardias for years, excellent quality.  http://picardias.com.ar/

picardiaspicardias2

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  • CDI / Clave de Identification / Required from an AFIP office to purchase property if you don't have a DNI
  • From: Peter J. Macay, August 15, 2005

When we purchased our apartment almost 3 years ago, you did not need a DNI to purchase an apartment.  A CDI (Clave de Identification) is required if you don't have a DNI and it's very quick and easy to get and it's almost free, 10 pesos or something.  A CDI is just another way for the government to track you in order to pay your home owners yearly taxes (the taxes are cheap by USA home taxes standards as a percentage of the home value). 

You get a CDI from the AFIP Administracion Federal de Ingresos Publicos office.  You have to go to the AFIP branch based on where the property you are buying is located, just walk into any AFIP office (check the telephone book for your closest office) and they will tell you which AFIP branch you need to go to.  You supply the AFIP with a copy of your current rental contract, then you come back in 2 hours (go have lunch) and it's ready.

I have heard that there are some new requirements to show where you got the money from to purchase an apartment.  I guess this is for international money laundering laws, but this wasn't the case when we purchased.  I also heard that there is a new law where you have to have a "guarantor" or someone who will vouch for you to be sure the home yearly taxes are paid.  Please let the list know if these "rumors" are true as you go through the process.  Good luck!

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  • Cell Phones / Bringing a new cell phone into Argentina

We bought a cool new Nextel phone in the USA for a friend here. When we came back we did not have customs sign off on it, you know how they have on the customs form "Do you have a cell phone?"  Well, we gave it to our friend who then tried to activate it. First problem was that custom's hadn't signed off on it. Next problem was the receipt was made out to Ron and not our friend. They said they could only setup the billing account in the name of the person who is on the receipt.  Sigh...............

On our way back from Peru, we took the phone with us and had custom's sign off on it upon our arrival here. We didn't have to pay any taxes on the phone (price was about $290 USA), the custom's guy was very nice. Once home, Ron created a receipt on the computer with our friend's name listed.  He took all that to Nextel and they activated it finally.

So............. if you're bringing in a phone that you want to activate here, you need to get a custom's signature. The custom's agent didn't even ask for our plane ticket, so we could have just driven out to the airport and walked up to the window.  There is usually only one person in the custom's window and I have seen long lines in front of it, luckily both times we went there was no one waiting.

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  • Cell Phone Information
  • From the BANewComers list:  Shahrukh / March 23, 2005

Below is my posting from 18 months ago. The major change from that article's date is that GSM (International, not North American frequencies) is making inroads in a big way, and both Telecom's Personal and Telefonica's Unifon are offering it (along with others). In fact, they are pushing it, even though nationwide coverage with GSM is not at par with TDMA. If you have an unlocked GSM phone and don't plan to travel outside Gran Buenos Aires, Ezeiza, Mendoza, and major metropolitan cities (Cordoba, Rosario, ...) and heavily traveled areas, then go with GSM. Otherwise, you can buy a decent TDMA phone new for $150 pesos including $50 pesos credit. If you have a US TDMA phone (AT&T Wireless NON-GSM, or many former Cingular areas), bring it along and it will work with Telecom or Telefonica.

Also, the agency referred to at the end doesn't exist anymore (or not with the same level of service). I now recommend ABC Celulares (for Unifon only). Lavalle 835, Galería Paseo Lavalle, Loc. 34. Capital Federal. Frente al Bingo. 4328-2827 or Fernando at (15) 5798-4921.

For most people, prepaid (contract-less) service works out best. There is no charge for incoming calls (other than in peculiar circumstances such as when the caller is calling from an old coin phone that has no way to charge the caller). I currently recommend Telefonica Unifon (rather than Telecom's Personal Light which I was at the time of the original article), but that's as much circumstance and personal preference (and what equipment I happened to have a spare for at the time).

Shahrukh

Original article:
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:44:19 -0400   
From: Shahrukh Merchant <merchant@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Cellular Phones in Buenos Aires

Someone asked about this recently. Here is the results of some research I did on this subject. If there is a FAQ for the BANewcomers list, the maintainer should feel free to add this article to it. Please send meany corrections or addenda.

Regards,

Shahrukh Merchant

CELLULAR PHONES IN BUENOS AIRES

Last updated Aug 2003 based on Mar 2003 information.

CONTENTS

Summary & Personal Recommendation
1. Major companies
2. Prepaid vs. contract
3. Systems and compatibility
4. Using your own cell phone
5. Dialing Bs.As. cell phones from outside Bs.As. & outside Argentina
6. More on Personal Light Prepaid
7. Contact info for Telecom Personal, Telefonica Unifon & One Agency

SUMMARY & PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION

For visitors (even longer-term ones), you can't go too far wrong with Telecom's Personal Light prepaid service. Compatible with TDMA cell phones in the US (bring your own!) and has all the standard features including voice mail. About $0.40 per minute peak, $0.20 off-peak.

1. MAJOR COMPANIES

- CTI Movil (allegedly the only company that can be used in the subte)- Telefonica (Unifon)- Telecom (Personal)- BellSouth (Movicom)

In the latter three cases, the first name is the name of the company and in parentheses is the marketing name of their cellular service.

2. PREPAID VS. CONTRACT

All companies provide contract service (monthly fee includes certain number of minutes) but you have to have a permanent residence in Argentina and proof of employment. Prepaid service is a very good option anyway and many residents (yes, the employed ones too) use it too. If you are going to be away for months at a time, it's also better since you don't have to pay the monthly fee for the months you're gone.

However, as of this writing, only Telefonica and Telecom provide prepaid service. CTI Movil does not, and I am not sure about Movicom.

3. SYSTEMS AND COMPATIBILITY

South America joins North America in being the only major area of the world which does not use GSM as the primary cellular system. Just like in the US, there are incompatible combinations of TDMA and CDMA services, with old-fashioned analog in some areas. The good news for people coming from the US is that your US cell phone may work (see "Using your own cell phone" below).

But you should know that: Telefonica and Telecom use TDMA; CTI Movil and Movicom use CDMA.

Telecom also has some GSM (rest-of-world-compatible) deployed, but only in Buenos Aires, Ezeiza (airport) and some tourist areas like Mendoza and Iguazu. Maybe other companies do too, but at any rate it is not the primary system. Furthermore, at least as of this writing, Telecom's GSMwas only available to contract holders and not as a prepaid service.

[Owing to the wide deployment of Telefonica's and Telecom's offerings, and the lead that TDMA technology has in Argentina, I would recommend using a TDMA-based carrier. If you already have a CDMA-based cell phone with multiple NAMs, you may want to try and see if it works. But used cell phones can be bought so cheaply in the USA that I wouldn't go CDMA for that reason alone.]

4. USING YOUR OWN CELL PHONE

If you are coming from the US, the major cellular companies there use the following systems:

Verizon: CDMAAT&T Wireless: TDMA Cingular: TDMA (except GSM-1900 in some areas)Sprint PCS: CDMA

[I KNOW that AT&T Wireless TDMA phones will work just fine with Telecom's service, and am pretty sure with Telefonica too. If you have a cell phone that was used with AT&T Wireless or Cingular (non-GSM area),you should be able to get service activated with the Argentine carriers.  If you don't have an extra one lying around, definitely buy one from E-Bay for $10-20 used before you leave the US (search "TDMA Cellular phone"); they will cost about 10 times that new without a contract and in Argentina maybe even with a contract, unless you buy a stolen one :-).]

One complication: The Argentine cellular companies, probably in an attempt to minimize the use of stolen cell phones, will insist on a factura (receipt) that proves ownership of your cell phone (it needs to have your name and the Electronic Serial No. or ESN of the phone on it).If you don't have one (who keeps these things around?), you can get around this by going to one of the agencies who deal with the company you want. No extra charge and the agencies don't care about such formalities. See Item 7 for one such agency that I used.

5. DIALING BS.AS. CELL PHONES FROM OUTSIDE BS.AS. & OUTSIDE ARGENTINA

This is not as intuitive as you would think. All cell phone numbers start with 15 so you would think that someone calling you from outside Argentina would simply dial +54 15 xxxx-xxxx. But that's NOT the case: you need to REPLACE 15 by 911, i.e., +54 911 xxxx-xxxx. Furthermore, to dial a Bs.As. cell phone from other cities in Argentina outside theBs.As. "zone" you need to ADD the Buenos Aires city code, i.e., (0)11 15xxxx-xxxx. Go figure.

6. MORE ON PERSONAL LIGHT PREPAID

Since Telecom's Personal Light service is the one I got after my research and recommend (based on price and acceptable service), I have some more information about this.

- Minimum recharge is $10 and you can buy cards for $10 or $20 at kiosks around town (scratch off the secret number and dial a particular sequence to charge). Cost is $0.40 peak, $0.20 off-peak. Time expires 30days after last charge. Voice-mail is included.


- If you charge with a greater amount AT ONE TIME the per-minute rate decreases (this is based on your last charge, so don't follow a $100charge with a $10 charge until the $100 is almost used up) and the expiration time increases.

- You can charge larger amounts than $20 at the Personal Office at Corrientes (see Item 7 below) or at ONE particular cell phone agency at Viamonte 731 called "Shopping Phone Power." You can pay cash or charge to an Argentina-issued credit-card. If you are doing so, ask to make a "Saldo Virtual" deposit rather than a cash deposit. The procedure is IDENTICAL to a cash deposit as far as I can tell, and you pay the same way, but by saying the magic words "Saldo Virtual" you get promotional extra minutes (15-30% depending on the promotion).

- If you leave Argentina and your money and/or time is used up, you will no longer be able to access the phone number and it will not accept voice-mail. However, they keep your number for 9 months after that so you can reinitialize it at that point. If you want to receive voice-mail while you are outside Argentina (which you pick up by calling your own number from any phone), you have to keep the account active by having someone pay at least the minimum amount for you at the Telecom office orViamonte 731 before your time expires. (As long as you never let it expire, the money keeps rolling forward too.)

7. CONTACT INFO FOR TELECOM PERSONAL, TELEFONICA UNIFON (& ONE AGENCY)

- Telecom's Personal office is at Corrientes 566 (at Florida, subte Florida).

- Telefonica Unifon office is just a block away from Telecom's Personal, also on Corrientes.

- One agency (of many, no doubt) that represents Unifon, Personal and Movicom (but not CTI Movil) is (noname) at Corrientes 1131, 5217-2746,4382-0251. Ask for Carina. (Will let you use your own cell phone without requiring proof of ownership.)

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  • Cell Phones / Places to Buy
  • From: Sean, August 22, 2006

One option is to hook up with CTI on a monthly 1 year-minimum billed (no prepaid cards needed) plan to get the under $0.35 (peso) a minute deal  - you will need a passport and maybe CDI – depending on the policy dejour. They may or may not ask you for a 6 month reasonable and refundable depost based on lack of local credit. Otherwise expect to pay over $0.50 a minute for on-the-spot plans using prepaid cards you buy at mini-markets, etc. – no 1 year contract needed.

Plus the cost of the phone no matter which way you go.

CTI has countless stores scattered through out the country and seem to be on every block of the big cities. www.cti.com.ar 

If you want to rent a phone, one option is www.phonerental.com.ar

CTI also has a plan for even small companies with as little as 3 users where most calls are FREE between the 3 phones – CUIT or CUIL #’s required.

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  • Cell Phones - Receiving calls from the USA
  • From: Benjamin J. Schwartz, April 13, 2006

Try this: 011-54-911-XXXX-XXXX

    From: Belliappa Pattada, April 13, 2006

for eg. if ur cell number is 15-6176 8990 here in BsAs, then they would have to dial 00-54-911-6176 8990 if they are calling from outside argentina. And from USA i had to dial 011-54-911-6176 8990.  but from other countries u may not have to use the prefix 011.

    From: Jvanka, April 13, 2006

011 54 9 11 + your number (omit the 15 of your number when use locally)

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  • Cell Phones - Used
  • From: WynnWoods, November 9, 2009

I answered a post a long time ago about where to purchase reasonably priced cell phones and answered that I know of a mall area that sells tons of used cells of all kinds at amazing prices and with warrantees.  At the time I could not find the business card with the address and was too busy/lazy to go and find the address again.

This evening I came across the address: Av. Corrientes 2330. And there are about 40 stores there (one of those circular malls close to Callao).

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  • Cell Phones / Will my foreign cellphone work in Argentina? Locking / unlocking
  • From: Gaucho Gringo, August 29, 2006

You may get a reply, but the trend now in cell-phones is to actually bring your own phone and continue to use it, so you know exactly how to handle it, and keep your photos, ringtones, and certain numbers and messages in the phones´ memory.

When you get here you buy a cheap "tarjeta chip" i.e. phone-chip-card. (ALL this is ONLY valid if your current phone is chip-equipped)

This allows you to keep your original US or other country-of-origin cell-number, and even still re-use it when you travel back or visit there. Of course there must be some payment plan, that takes into consideration your prolonged absence and lack of use of the cell-system, so you could probably just pay a minumum "number maintenance fee" while you´re away, something to ask your current cellular company before coming down here.

So, with the cards, you would switch them between countries, but your phone is always your own, one-and-only.

This is also waaaay cheaper than paying roaming rates. When you store your new local numbers, you can save your local contacts only on the chip-card for each country and as you switch them you will see how these contacts actually appear and disappear according to the country you are in. However certain family or best friend numbers can be stored directly into the phone memory, so they will ALWAYS be available. no matter what card you insert.

Another problem with older non-chip units is they still may contain numbers and data that don´t concern you, or others, so this means before transfering a unit, the prior owner will want to delete their info, which they may be afraid will not fully erase, so they may be reluctant to hand over the phone.

Also this would mean you would still have that prior owners´ cell number, so you´ld be bombarded with calls coming in not meant for you. You can of course change the number of an older phone, but that implies an added service charge, higher than the cost for a new chip-card.

I guess I covered it all, but you still may want to get a second-hand unit, just wanted to let you know you may not actually need it.

From: TB W, August 30, 2006

The answer to both questions is yes--I have done both. I am using my cell phone here with an Argentine account, but you need to make sure it is "unlocked" before you bring it: getting it unlocked here is possible, but it is easier in the US--eBay lists companies which will unlock phones for less than U$S 10.

As to the Vonage box, I transferred my US cell number to the Vonage box before I left the US, and arranged for automatic payment through American Express--this is necessary since Vonage wants a US address and a US credit card when they set up the account. It also helped to iron out the kinks with the box and my service while I was still in the US. Once that is done, you can take the box anywhere and just plug it in. I talk to my children every day and to my friends in the US more than ever, all for less than U$S 30 per month, and anyone in the US can call me from a payphone. Some acquaintences didn't even know I had moved, and were surprised when I told them that the number they called was ringing in Buenos Aires--if you haven't done so already, make sure you list your cell on the "Do not Call" list for telemarketers, so that those calls don't follow you down here. Good Luck!

    From: Gaucho Gringo, August 29, 2006

It depends on your cell-phone, the make and model. If it uses the removable chip, then it´s as easy as buying a cheap new chip here, with a fully operational local number.

The only problem is if your phone is "locked" meaning you need to "unlock" it to change companies, and numbers, etc. For other non-chip phones the process would depend on that particular model.

You are not clear either on the second part. Do you mean you want to continue to get your US calls to your current cell number, but answer them here in BA? If so you can transfer your current cell number to call Argentina at your new cell phone number. This actually will be quite cheaper than paying roaming charges and using your US number down here.

I have never used Vonage but if you transfer calls to it, and then want to answer them here, you better ask others if the process is fast enough not to lose most calls for people hanging up too early. If they don´t know they are being routed via the internet they won´t know they need to give it more time to connect and ring properly.

    From: BANewComers - william thelen July 21, 2005

Some more info about using "foreign "cellulars in Argentina!  The unlock question,..and changing sim-cards,..well,....that is not as much of an issue!  Just be sure,..that the cellular you bring from another country, to Argentina,..is using the right frequency!!!!  All GSM's here work on the 850 or 1900 Mhz band!  So,..when you come for instance ,from Europe,...and bring a dual-band  gsm,..you are out of luck,..cause those use the 900/1800 Mhz band!  So make sure,...your cell uses the right frequency.......or well support Argentinian economy,..and buy one here!

    From: BANewComers - Christian Rodriguez July 20, 2005

To my question about what is locking and unlocking on cellphones:

Sometimes you get a phone from the provider of the cellphone service. In that case, with the excuse that they are selling the phone at a lower cost than they should, they want to make sure you use that phone with them. They LOCK it to make sure the phone only works with that service provider (AT&T, T-mobile, whatever).

So, if you have one of those phones, you need to unlock it if you want to use it with another provider (and if you move from USA to here, you will definitely need to do that).

Some unlocking requires just a code or some keys being pressed, some others are more complicated than that.

    From: BANewComers - Bob Hannan July 20, 2005

To my question about what is locking and unlocking on cellphones:

All US & Arg cell phones are locked by the carrier so that you can't just change the chip in your phone to switch carriers.  In the US, the carrier has to let you unlock your phone after 3 or 6 months (seek=ms a fair, you own the phone they don't).   I unlocked my phone before coming down and got a new chip so I would have a local number.

    From: BANewComers - Jvanka July 19, 2005

To my question about what is locking and unlocking on cellphones:

Cell phones can be use pretty much anywhere, the problem is when you are out of your country/region you pay international roaming.  It is about USA $1 a minute when you use your US phone in Argentina.  Now some phones are GSM meaning they use a card with your account info and contacts.  This removable card/chip some places is sold at kiosk allowing you to get a new phone number in Buenos Aires and swapping your US chip for a ARG chip.  Then you have a local number at a local rates.

When big companies figured this out they don't like the fact that you can use the same phone in other markets, better keep the business so they decided to "Lock" their phones making impossible to use other chips.  Even if the intend of GSM phones was the convenience of swapping services.  So now, if you want to unlock your phone there are services for that and also buying "unlocked" phones are more expensive.

Bottom line, if you travel a lot better get a GSM phone service with an unlocked phone.

    From: BANewComers - Deby Novitz July 18, 2005

This is for the person who has the GSM cell.  If your phone is locked they charge 75 pesos to unlock it here. There is a great website you can go to and for $5 you get the codes to unlock it yourself.  I paid via paypal.  I don't remember if you could pay direct via credit card.

http://www.thetravelinsider.info/roadwarriorcontent/unlockingfaq.htm

    From: BANewComers - Jvanka July 18, 2005

If your phone is Unlock you will be able to use it in Argentina. Make sure it is unlock. If you purchased direct from T-mobile then unfortunately the phone most likely is LOCK .  The only way to find out in US is by inserting a card-chip from another carrier like i.e. Cingular. If the phone works with a cingular card then is unlocked.

In the US go to a store where they have multiple carriers and ask about unlocking it, they may refer you or even doing in the shop. Or you can try on line services by searching over the web.

http://www.motounlocknow.com/vxxximei.htm

    Another comment from the BANewComers list:

  • If you have a GSM unlock phone from your country you can buy a gsm sim card in Personal for AR$ 30, they will open an account for you and verify if your phone is compatible with their system, then you can charge your phone with prepay cards (10 or 20 pesos) that you can buy in most of the kioskos in the city.  There is only one Personal office selling gsm sim card and it is located in Avda. Corrientes N° 544/66 (and go to the 2nd floor.)
  • Otherwise you can buy prepay packages like the "personal light" including a phone an activation kit w/ some pre pay time.  This service is pay as you go and there are other companies as well.

http://www.personal.com.ar/prodlight/prodlight_adquirir.htm

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  • Centro Cultural Konex - Educational / Cultural / Foundation

An Argentine friend of mine told me about a foundation that may be of use to me (and hopefully you too). I have not checked it out but he loves it and is taking English classes there for a very cheap price.

http://www.centroculturalkonex.org/

It is on Av. Córdoba 1235 near Libertad.

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  • Ceramic Tile
  • From: Paul, April 4, 2006

Please be careful when budgeting for floor tile repairs. One might plan to repair a floor using new, inexpensive calcareo tiles. The engineers society, INTI, tells me that most of the new ones are very poor quality.

I bought some from calcareo tiles from BALDOSONES D'ELIA.  The finish started coming off within a few weeks of use.  Any one who knew tiles would have known by looking at the back of these, that the finish would come off.

BALDOSONES D'ELIA offered to replace the tiles, but I wanted them to pay for the labour too. So, two years later all I have is a legal problem, but no refund nor proper tiles.

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  • Cereal - Granola Mix
  • From: Janet, December 20, 2009

We found out about a new service called GranolaMix.com.ar . They deliver to your house a custom granola mix (they even have a low-fat granola option) and can do a subscription type service where they bring it on a recurring schedule. They also do granola bars. The quality has been fantastic (especially with kiwis and pistachios!) and the packaging is really cute. This has been such a great find.
 

granolamix

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  • Certified Checks

Banco Piano sells certified checks.  Address:  San Martin 345/347, just half a block south of the corner of San Martin and Corrientes.   Telephone:  4321-9200.  
 
Apparently they have other branches, too, example,  the Hotel Sheraton in Retiro, telephone:  4318-9000.
 
The certified check for the FBI "Good Conduct Clearance" is for US$18.  Banco Piano charges an additional US$10 for the service. 

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  • Charities
  • From: Ms veronica srucelj, December 08, 2007

My mother works ad-honorem as a therapist at a place called HOGAR CAMINO NUEVO, where they help drugadict children to recover.  I think they need all kind of help (food, clothes, furniture, TIME, etc). You can contact her at 1567327773 Carmen Strucelj

    From: Anil and Juhi Manwani, December 07, 2007

i suggest u contact sra. cielo or her daughter alejandra of the comedor buena voluntad. this is an organization that does not receive any support from the government and anything u donate, used or new, will be put to good use. i highly recommend them and sra. cielo and her daughter hv done a great job making it work involving the not so well off in the community and boost their self-esteem. their e-mail add is   lavoluntaddelcielo@hotmail.com .

sra. cielo´s no. is 4686-0278 and alejandra´s cell is 15-5734-8689. they r located in villa oculta, in mataderos area.

    From: alex, December 11, 2007

Conviven is an NGO oriented to promote social and community development for children, teenagers, young people, and families living in one of the most impoverished neighborhoods of Buenos Aires – "aka" Villas Miserias/Ciudad Oculta at the border of Mataderos and Villa Lugano, where around 16,000 people live in marginality, and below the poverty line. We have a wonderful community and recreational center that serves as an learning space for children, adolescents and adults who are committed to eduction and staying out of trouble. We provide art, photography, theater, English and computer workshops to children from the ages of 6 to 22. It's our goal to provide a nurturing and caring environment for children who are up against a lot in the world. You can read more about Conviven on our weblog and website.

www.centroconviven.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html

www.centroconviven.org.ar 

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  • Chauffer / Driver
  • From: Fred, August 18, 2009

When are you going into the airport? I can take you for a big discount with my Lincoln Town Car, only if I am going in empty for a pickup anyway (I don't want to go in empty) Also, the public bus does go in very cheaply...Please contact me, my info is on my site www.silverstarcar.com  Thanks Fred

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    From: Richard, August 13, 2006

The best way to go is to get a "cuenta corriente" (account) with an agency and make sure they give you a discount. The cost of hiring a chauffer outright, including salary, insurance, and social coverage, is relatively high in Argentina. Hiring someone to work "en negro" (under the table) is too big of a liablity risk.

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  • Children / Getting Around / Is Buenos Aires a good city for children?
  • From: chegringo57, January 12, 2008

My wife and I have 2 young daughters, a 3 year old and a 3 month old. Getting around the city with a stroller is a royal pain in the ass. The sidewalks are always uneven, rarely a handicap-accessible ramp to the curb, stores do not cater to strollers nor babies. Finding changing stations for a baby is near impossible unless you enter a really nice restaurant or a nice shopping center. Galeria Pacifico even offers free diapers and a changing area, which is so very rare. Men's restrooms nearly never have a changing station for babies. For young children, public restrooms are few and far between, so your kids will have to acclimate to 'holding it'.

Travel around the city is terrible with family-in-tow if you want public transportation. Taxis rarely have seatbelts, at least functional ones. Many refuse to take you if there's 4 and a stroller. Subways sometimes have escalators going up, but rarely down. That's IF they have escalators. Most don't. So you'll be dragging the stroller and the kid down dangerous steps. There are a couple of subway stations with elevators; which I find pointless (if you're handicapped, how can you go back up once you reach your destination that has no elevator?).

If you haven't been here, buses drive like madmen on steroids. They don't make exceptions for families. We get on the bus and I immediately throw my 3 year old in the nearest chair available before the bus driver hammers the gas; while my wife is thrown to the back of the bus with the 3 month old over her shoulder. Many people don't get out of their seat for kids, and the buses are too violent for a 3 year old to hold on. People usually get up for my wife and 3 month old, but then everybody thinks that the 3 year old should be sitting with her mom too; so she ends up holding on to both of them for dear life as my 3 year old begs for a seat. To get off the bus, they don't wait for you. You must get up and ring the bell and be ready to jump off when the doors open. The other day my wife was nearly taken to the next stop because the bus driver hammered the gas while she was getting off. Only because everybody outside the bus and on the bus yelled did he stop. Luckily, she had yet to try to step off, as there is nothing to hold onto. If he would have gunned it while she was stepping down, disaster would have been the result. So getting around with a family is a pain in the ass. If you have a car it would be nice. But you get only 30 days with a car, legally, and then you have to wait to get a DNI before getting a license (see previous conversation). I could not even begin to imagine the difficulty of public transportation with 3 young children. All of this only applies to the Capital. I can't speak for outside the city. However, I do know that regardless where you go, it is very dangerous for children to play unsupervised in open areas. Kidnappings are very rare, what isn't rare is children getting run over by cars. So you have to make sure your children learn very young how dangerous going near the roads is. This is my experience. Buenos Aires is not the place for a family; at least one that enjoys venturing beyond the confines of their own home; but many do it obviously.

    From: Brenden, January 12, 2008

While I think there are some very astute observations regarding some of the significant differences newcomers will notice when coming from the US (and I have no idea from where CheGringo came), I only want to add that I could not disagree with his conclusions more.

For me, Buenos Aires is a far better place to raise a family than the city from whence I came. But everyone is different, and I certainly respect that others may not feel the same way.

    From: Benjamin J. Schwartz, January 13, 2008

Yeah, having been living in BsAs for the past 2.5 years, and being been a father for the past 10 months, I can say that BA is a great place to have children.  Every time my wife and I get on buses with our daughter people practically fall out of their chairs trying to give us a seat. It's true that the sidewalks are uneven and that the handicap ramps are often broken, but just go around it and prop the buggy up on the curb, it works fine.

People have an amazingly happy and very positive reaction to children and particularly babies in this country, and in BA too.  Banks, the post office, or any government office in general goes out of the way to help out, or put you through first when you have a baby.

There are a lot of things I can complain about living in BA, but treatment of children is not one. This country, and this city love children and babies.

Sorry for your bad times Che Gringo, but it's amazing how different people have different experiences.

    From: chegringo57, January 13, 2008

Well, it's obvious a lot of people have a different opinion than me. Or perhaps it was because my post was a little too 'Cestelmo'-like. Anyway, it sounds to me like I'm the only one that's voiced an opinion who actually raised a child in the States for 3 years before moving her here (from the Midwest). I think it is her opinion that I am reiterating; and she doesn't like it here. She loved her public swimming pools (the closest one that will allow us and her to swim together is a 45 minute bus ride), her parks (1/2 a mile walk from our place, and it isn't a park like the state or city parks in the States), and her ability for a stroller ride without being dumped out on the sidewalk from all the potholes and uneven sidewalks (the handicap-accessible ramps are usually non-functional as they don't meet the street evenly - in fact, push someone in a wheelchair down that same path Justin and then get back to me.)

The only advantages I put in Argentina's favor is health care and education (yes, believe it or not, I would rather enroll my daughter in school here). Yes, being pregnant or having a baby in your arms does bring its advantages. I wasn't saying people aren't friendly to children. I was saying the city isn't friendly to children. I like Buenos Aires, I just don't like having my family here.

Also, people do get up for my daughter if it is only her....sometimes. However, if it's my wife and 3 month old, they get up for her and then feel that 2 seats is just too much to give up I guess, and my wife has to hold on to both girls, as I'm left holding the stroller.

However, I also notice that many have decided to strike out against one of my issues with having a family here in an attempt to negate my whole statement. I mentioned about 10 issues about having kids here. Nobody offered any argument to the lack of seatbelts question, and that's a law on the books here. Or the lack of accessibility in public areas (like subways) for stollers and small kids.

I'll mention another. It's a highly polluted city with no regulation on emissions. Health-wise, it's not a ideal environment for children; let alone everyone else. It's a blessing that smoking was banned in restaurants and public areas; as smokers here generally have little concern for children or pregnant women.

I know this post, and the first, sound like rants on Buenos Aires. However, the question asked for experiences, I interpreted it to mean that someone was interested in knowing how Buenos Aires compares to other cities in the world for families. Would I ever recommend someone to move their family here for the purpose of a better life for their kids and a happier family? Absolutely not. Cities in the United States are much more considerate when it comes to a healthy and happy environment for children. I can't comment on Europe, but my guess would be the same. Buenos Aires, and Argentina, give preferential treatment to babies and pregnant mothers at check-out lines and buses, but it's the environment that is unforgiving; and the treatment stops once the child reaches 2 years old. I think Buenos Aires offers many benefits. A healthy environment for children is not one of them. This has been my experience.

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  • Children / Toddler / Things to do
  • From: patanibna, July 6, 2007

there are several great things for kids in BA: . an interactive science museum in recoleta . a great dinosaur museum in parque centenario . many theatres have shows for the little ones (most are in spanish,  though, but some would be easy to follow). we went to the museo del  titere in san telmo, great puppets and good shows. . the museo de la ciudad has a display of old toys . the parque de la costa on a weekend  . boat ride on the tigre . the caballito tramway on weekends . palermo parks . street entertainment in san telmo (my kids have loved the human  statues, the boa constrictor, the fortune-telling parrot, thedrunk  puppets) . ice cream!! there's much more but i have to go now. email me off list if you  want.

    From: wheresleslie, July 6, 2007

The better zoo to me is Temaiken -- beautiful setting, small but very  high quality. White tigers there as well (although there are the cubs  at the Palermo zoo -- which is nice, but not nearly as beautiful as  Temaiken).

Also, there is the zoo at Lujan. I don't know how you feel about this,  some people think it is wrong, but there you can actually pet the  lions! I haven't been out yet so someone else might know more, but  supposedly they are all raised with their own puppy to calm them, and  you can go to visit them at different ages -- newborn all the way to  full grown adult. Get there early in the morning or go during the week.

    From: lexy5612b, August 16, 2006

Re: Does anyone have any tips on being in the city with a toddler, fun things to do, restaurants/places that are especially child-friendly, or any other advice?

One is the planetarium in Palermo, there's also a Zoo there. Another thing, is the Abasto mall. There are weekend events for kids all the time. Check the site. Unicenter also has a play area for kids, that's about 20 minutes from BA. Also,  there are many parks with swings and carousels. Just today, I was on Las Heras and Cantilo (by a big church, almost near El cemetario de la Recoleta) and I saw kids riding a carousel and playing on swings in a park. There's also el museo de los niños. I think I have a kid's guide for Buenos Aires, so if you don't mind, we could meet, and I  could give it to you :)

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  • Children - Traveling with them - Keep your expired passport!
  • From: Frances Perry, July 31, 2006

I’m married to an Argentine (14 years and counting) and have two Argentine children (ages 11 and 8).  I had official travel documents – permits to travel solo and / or together with my kids – written up using my US Passport rather than DNI (which I had at the time but didn’t think of the importance of using one over the other.)  Since then I have had to show my old expired passport to the emigration officials each time I leave the country with my children.  Also, as my husband and I were married in the US and not Argentina, we must show the same legal document to prove that the children are ours each time we leave the country together with the kids.  Once again I need to show my expired passport as my current one has a new number that does not correspond to the one on the legal document.  Argentine emigration officials would not allow us to leave Argentina without this expired passport, so yes it is a requirement for our travel.  ALSO country visas can be valid pass the expiration date of the passport. 

For example my 5 year Brazil visa was still good even though my US passport had expired prior to my Brazil visa.  Same thing with my husband’s 10 year US visa in his expired Argentine passport.  Another example of how an expired passport can be used even if not required.  Hope this clears the issue up for you. - Frances

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  • Chocolate Store

Ron is chocolaholic and we found the best chocolates just a block from our house (how convenient!)

El Viejo Oso (The Old Bear) - 3 branches

Debenedetti 602 - Local 10 - La Lucila 4794-5778

Arcos 2057 - 4787-4362

Montevideo 1594 - 4811-0211

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  • Christmas Trees / Living
  • From: tangocherie, December 04, 2007

Yes, you can go to Vivero Faifful in Almagro on Francisco Acuna de Figueroa, between Corrientes & Rivadavia.

I bought my first one 4 years ago, a blue cedar, and it recently passed away. So last Sunday I went back and got some kind of fir tree/bush, that is very pretty.

But most nurseries, if they carry any at all, only have tiny ones.

    From: Daniela Melton, December 05, 2007

on the 1300 - 1400 block of Soldado de la Independencia in Las Canitas there is a vivero with some small live trees. I bought one last year and put it in the ground and its doing fantastic! Im decorating it outside this year-

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  • Civil Union Legal Rights
  • From: Peter J. Macay December 31, 2010

Previously Argentina had legal civil unions for same sex couples, however on July 15, 2010, Argentina legalized same sex marriage, it's not a civil union, but REAL Marriage!  WOO HOO!  See my Marriage Info link on how to get married!

Marriage Info

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  • Classifieds for Argentina
  • From Michelle Alison, December 19, 2009

Try www.olx.com.ar  - check whether it says commission payable.  Most are private.

olx

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  • Clothes / Big and Tall Sizes
  • From: Albert Esther, September 07, 2006

Regarding clothes for tall men: I am a cruiser class gringo (6'2", 240 lbs) and generally can not find off the shelf clothes that fit in BA. There is a Big and Tall shop for men on Santa Fe in Palermo (I think close to Ortiz). It has nice clothes, but the prices are higher than in the U.S. for many, if not most, items.

    From: Nat, September 07, 2006

Reading this message an image came to my mind: "a swede man trying  to buy a pair of troussers in a regular japanese store... In  Argentina is not that easy to find clothes for people who´s bigger  or taller than the average, even though there was an attempt of  legislation about it... But there are few store specialized in bigger sizes ( I have a  friend from Switzerland who visit me for a month and he was  desperate to find a pair of trousser... he is 2.02 cm).  Here goes a link with some stores:  http://www.indextar.com/ba/buenos-aires-shopping-sizes-for-big-and-tall--c412   Remember, in Argentina big sizes are "talles grandes" or "talles  especiales", that includes tall and big people, over the 46  trousser / skip size.

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  • Colon, Entre Rios area, about 3.5 hours drive north of Buenos Aires, weekend getaway, thermal springs

We visited a town called Colon in Entre Rios by bus out of the Retiro bus terminal. It's a nice small town next to the river with nice beaches along the river, kayaks, rental bikes, they also have public thermal baths there.  I think by direct car it was about a 3:45 trip, by bus it will be a little longer.

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Click on the Colon map above for a lager version.

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  • Colonia, Uruguay - Nice place to visit from Buenos Aires - Good for renewing your tourist visa!

Re: I heard about some cheap tickets to Colonia (about 18 pesos each way)...does anyone know where I can find out more about this special?

    From: Julio Cesar Losua, April 28, 2009

Colonia Express.
http://www.coloniaexpress.com/ar/tarifas.aspx

coloniaexpress

Buquebus
http://www.buquebus.com.ar/cache/HomeARG.html   

buquebus

Cacciola  http://www.cacciolaviajes.com/

cacciola

    From: Peter J. Macay, April 2010

We just returned from Colonia, visiting there for the day with a friend.  As you exit the boat into the BuqueBus terminal, there is a really nice visitor's desk with free tourist maps, here are a few of the maps.

Uruguay
Uruguay Country map

ColoniaCity

The entire Colonia city area.

Colonia-Historic
The historic downtown area, very small, but really beautiful.

    From: Marilyn Fisher, May 12, 2010

There is a pass for all the museums in Colonia - it used to be US$1 or $4 pesos for the entrance to TEN (10) museums.   There is one museum which is an old furnished house of the period - a kind of one house Williamsburg. There is a tiny museum of indigenous peoples.   The one I liked the best, because the information was so new to me, was the museum of the war between Argentina and Uruguay.  
 
You get the pass at the tourist office by the bridge-tower-thingie, or buy it at the first museum you go to.  It's good for all 10 museums.

    From: Sara, April 21, 2010

Try the Meson de la Plaza for lunch, a traditional place on the smaller of the two plazas, with good food, reasonable prices, and a lot of character.

There are many city tours, if you are the tour kind.  If not, it is fun to rent an electric golf cart from Avis on General Flores and just drive around.  There's a small antique tile museum, in a very old stone building - that's the only one I know of.

I don't know about the slow ferry, but Buquebus has wireless in some of its fast ferries  (not all). It kicks in about fifteen minutes after the ferry leaves the dock. 

The only good place I've found for lunch is the Meson de la Plaza, on the smaller of the two Plazas. It's in an old building, the food is pretty good, prices are reasonable but not cheap (nothing in Uruguay is) and it has a nice patio.  Most of the other places in the historic area are tourist traps, with inedible food at sky-high prices.  I had to spend many months in Colonia while building a house nearby, and tried many of them.

There's free wireless in the town plaza, and some comfortable benches, so if the weather is good you could work from there.

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  • Complaints - Better Business Bureau

Re: Is there any kind of organization in BsAs that handles consumer complaints similar to the BBB in the US?

    From: Pia, February 3, 2010

Hola!
Please find below three sites where you can submit your complaint.

1-
Dirección General de Defensa y Protección al Consumidor (the most important)
Director General: Dr. Juan Manuel Gallo
Domicilio: Esmeralda 340 - Capital Federal
TE: 5382-6200 – Fax: 5382-6222
Correo Electrónico: defensa@buenosaires.gov.ar 

2-
ADECUA  (asoc defensa consumid y usuarios de Argentina) Callao 225 1º piso, Buenos Aires, de lunes a viernes de 12 a 18:30. Tel (011)  4374-5420 / 0420

3-
Comision Nacional de Telecomunicaciones www.cnc.gov.ar

cnc.gov.ar

    From: Daniela Buira, February 3, 2010

You should make the complain in one Consumers Associaciation. As far as I
know, the best are: www.adelco.org

adelco.org

www.proconsumer.org.ar

proconsumer.org.ar

 and
www.adecua.org.ar

adecua.org.ar

 and they will assist you with one of their specialized lawyers without any cost.

Daniela

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  • Complaints / Discrimination for Tourists

DEFENSORíA DEL TURISTA

  • If visiting the city and you suffer some abuse type or discrimination, please contact The Tourists Defender's office, telephone is 4302 7816. Or you can go to their offices in Av. Pedro of Mendoza 1835 (Museum of Fine arts "Benito Quinquela Martin") in the neighborhood of La Boca, Monday to Sunday from 10am to 6pm. 

http://www.bue.gov.ar/servicios/?menu_id=67&info=cits

  • Also, Comisarìa del turista, Corrientes and 25 de Mayo,2 blocks away from Correo central
  • From: BANewComers, Karin Hosenfeld July 17, 2005

My Argentine husband says that you should contact the ombudsman http://www.defensor.gov.ar/index-en.php  of Argentina. He says they are specifically there for people who were taken advantage of and will fight for you. (Kind of like the "Attorney General" position in the US). The link I posted is in English.

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  • Complaints / Telephone / Internet / How to issue a formal complaint against a Telecommunications Provider
  • From: Ginger Gentile, November 26, 2008

have you tried starting a lawsuit with the telephone board? When telefonica wouldn´t fix my line after 2 MONTHS of me calling (and they blocked my number so I couldn´t complain more!!! and said I still had to pay for the
line!!) I filed a complaint, it was fixed the next day.

Go to the office in person, with your DNI or passport, all your phone and internet service bills that you have (ALL of them), and records of complaints you have made (such as numbers they give you to reference the call)

http://www.cnc.gov.ar/  the office is peru 598 , its open until 1630hs

best of luck! they really worked for me!

    From: Julio Cesar Losua, November 26, 2008

It really works. If you report the Telcos and ISP's and if you don't have a solution, they get a fine from the CNC.
Since I did it with Telefónica and Fibertel, I didn't experienced any problem.

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  • Computers / Electronics

New stuff:

www.garbarino.com.ar
www.fravega.com.ar

New and used stuff:

www.mercadolibre.com.ar
www.segundamano.com.ar
www.deremate.com.ar
buenosaires.craigslist.org/

    From BANewComers: Jvanka August 25, 2005

you can access online merchants at yahoo Argentina, not quite sure all of them show prices:
http://ar.shopping.yahoo.com/index.php also www.Altocity.com includes prices and shipping charges options

    From BANewComers: Christian Rodriguez August 25, 2005

for computer parts, Id just go to Galeria Jardin (Florida & Lavalle intersection) and walk around there and see what the prices are. Galeria Jardin is the place to go to buy computers (to buy a clone computer) or computer parts. Its a mall that has almost all stores dedicated to computer stuff.  You can get a good list here:

www.datasoft.com.ar

    From: Bob Stapp, April 05, 2006

Fravega  http://www.fravega.com/

    From: Laura Zurro, April 05, 2006

deremate.com.ar

falabella.com

http://www.rodo.com.ar/productos/default.asp?idcat=28

mercadolibre.com

    From: Sean, April 5, 2006

www.Fallabella.com.ar  They are upper crusty though – not surprised if they jack on a good dose of profit over and above what the government already does on electronics.

    From: Peter Winterble, April 5, 2006

www.fravega.com.ar

I've purchased several things and they seem okay price-wise and etc... shops all over the city.

    From: Walcott, April 5, 2006

The neighborhood around Parana & Corrientes is where all the cool shops with guy things are.

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  • Computer Repair / Technicians
  • From: Patricia Gilmore, December 29, 2009

I highly recommend Ricardo.  He is an Aussie/Argentine.  I had an overheating problem for a couple of years that shut my computer down.  He took my notebook apart and fixed it then backed all my hard drive info to my netbook.  A godsend.

Give him a call.

Ricardo.
M 15 5600 8680

    From: Peter J. Macay, April 26, 2009

I have had good luck with PC Doctor on Sante Fe and Montevideo in Recoleta.  It's a small place in a galaria mini-mall, but they seem to really know their stuff. Sorry, but I don't know if they speak English, however, they have a "Consultas" area where you can send them a message and ask.

www.pcdoctor.com.ar  They seem to have a branch in Pilar also.

pcdoctor

 

Av. Santa Fe 1556 - Local 14 / Capital Federal - 4815-8565 // 6984

Panamericana Km 50 - Torres Del Sol / Local 120 - Pilar - 02322-666625

    From: Samuel Warde, Aug 10, 2009

A friend of mine has a computer repair shop in Olivos.  His name is Marc Thomas and he is from the U.K. but has lived here for several years.  He is great with computer repairs and also sells rebuilt computers, etc.

He has lived here for years and is fluent in both English and Spanish.  He is also a member of BANewcomers. 
 
http://www.compufixshop.com/

compufix-1

compufix-3

    From: Juhi (Kavita) Manwani, Aug 7, 2009

i don't know of a store but i know of a very reliable person. his name is pascual criniti and he ahs repaired a no. of friends' computers. his cell is 15-4427-5473. he is very reasonably priced as well. all the ebst.

    From: Marc Thomas, April 27, 2009

I recently bought memory from: Krya, Av Cabildo 2280 Loc18 tel 4787 3104 www.krya.com.ar  contact Eduardo. He was very helpful and showed me a local downstairs which is a laptop specialist, but was closed for lunch.  Worth a call to Krya first.

    From: John Richard, December 11, 2007

Jonathan Livingston is a 22 year old English speaking Computer Engineering student at the UBA, and fixes computer hardware and software on-site.

Call him @ 15-5456-5359 or email to: jalancito@gmail.com

    From: Alejandro Saks, December 04, 2007

Re: tech geek wanted

I know a guy calle Diego who has been installing new Norton versions in my notebook and looking after it for the last 3 years and he seems to be quite good. I don´t know if he speaks English. He is based in Malabia 34, in Villa Crespo. Diego: 4856-0047 / 155-7810871  

    From: Anil and Juhi Manwani, December 03, 2007

i´ve been usin david for years and all the people i hv recommended him to only hv good thigns to say abt him. he doesn´t speak much english or at all, but he can explain thgins to u in very simple spanish. he is also a very nice person to deal with and his prices r reasonable. his nos. r 4951-3046 and 15-44151476. let me know if u use him. tc.

    From: Kara Bauer, August 16, 2006

There is an Apple store on Ayacucho between Arenales & Santa Fe.  Maybe they can help.

    From: Justin Martindale, August 16, 2006

There is an Apple store on Ayacucho between Avenida Santa Fé and Arenales. I have an Applecare Protection insurance and they accepted that. (As it turned out, there was nothing wrong with the computer, just the operator.)

    From: Gaucho Gringo, August 16, 2006

Galeria Jardin on Florida street 537 between Viamonte and Tucuman is FULL of computer stores. If they don´t have it, they can tell you where to get it, but hard-drives are abundant. Prices are good but can vary 20-30% between stores. Go well before 7:30pm when they start to close.

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  • Conversation Exchange
  • From: Rick Jones, 4/26/2007

You can also try your luck at meeting a English language partner through Conversation Exchange...

http:///www.conversationexchange.com 

I've met two really great partners that way.

Rick Jones

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  • Cooking Supplies / Appliance Stores

From: fiorella donayre zapata, Feb 1, 2010

Try "Dona Clara" (corrientes 2561) www.donaclara.com.ar
 
Suerte!

donaclara

Re: Anyone has found somewhere to buy a crockpot/slow cooker in Buenos Aires.

    From: pharohoknaught, January 25, 2010

I looked all over. There is a restaurant supply district around San Juan and Jujuy. I checked everywhere in the area, and nada.

Argentines like to sear a lomo more than slow cook a pot roast.

The best I could find is an square electric frying pan that has a very low setting. Unfortunatly, there is a vent built into the glass top and vapor escapes. So it cannot be left unattended all day like a slow cooker. I stll use it for other things, but it does not work well as a slow cooker.

I brought a slow cooker from the States and bought a transformer to enable 110 volt operation. My slow cooker only draws 280 watts so a 300 watt transformer is all I needed. Works great.

By the way, the restaurant supply district is a great place to buy pots, plates, tablecloths, anything for the kitchen or dining room. Restaurant quality tablecloths are particularly nice. They are afordable, and wine and grease stain resistant.

Good luck.

    From: Julio Cesar Losua, January 25, 2010

This is the closest thing I've found
http://www.tevecompras.com/?o=product&c=11000&plu=4074

tevecompras

Saludos,
Julio

I found this. It's called arrocera
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-72794745-arrocera-moulinex-mk-1001-con-garantia-_JM
Saludos,

mercadolibre

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  • Cordoba - Argentina's 2nd Largest City
  • From: mlidow, November 4, 2009

Hi John,

This place is about 90 km outside of Cordoba so I don't know if that maybe is too far for you, but it is beautiful and I think worth the trip. There are two tiny towns, right next door to each other - Yacanto and San Javier. It's a beautiful place to stay but probably not for more than a day or two. There's a small hotel there that is called Puesto Victoria...more like a bed and breakfast www.puestovictoria.com.ar  . The owners are really nice and it's a nice place to get away from the city. The area is very peaceful and they have a small, but nice pool that gets good sun.

puestovictoria

In Cordoba, the Sheraton is a safe and convenient bet. It had a great view, and I don't think the pool was shaded off too much, but I don't remember for sure.

Hope that helps, and have a nice time!
Marina

    From: xxooclaireooxx, November 4, 2009

Hey John,

I was in Córdoba in October and stayed at this new boutique hotel: www.azurrealhotel.com . It's absolutely gorgeous, and 2 blocks from the historic centre (Manzana Jesuítica). It has a huge sun deck on the top but perhaps not the kind of pool you are looking for - it's very sunny, but is only a plunge pool, and also has a building construction going on next door (although they weren't working on it, at least when I was there). But the place is definitely worth a look and it has a great restaurant with a very talented young chef - worth going just for that even if you don't stay,

Have a good trip!
Claire.
azurealhotel

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  • Cosmetic Surgery
  • From: Peter J. Macay, Oct 31, 2009

refresh-med1

Here’s a youtube video on plastic surgery in Buenos Aires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSgmzgbwwlA

I have a friend, Christopher Henson, who is from the USA and works with RefreshMed  You can contact him at:

RefreshMed
Refresh | Renew | Relax
www.refresh-med.com
 
US Office (800) 803-8502 x.101
Buenos Aires Office +54-11-4775-7811
Buenos Aires Mobile +54-9-11-6855-1052
chris.henson@refresh-med.com

    From: Roxanne Piper Davis, June 11, 2003

Lipo

As many of you know, I had lipo done on my legs about six weeks ago.  Dr. Carlos Van Thienen of Clinica Van Thienen performed the surgery and I am thrilled with the results.  Before I had the surgery, I had a really, really tough time finding people to speak with regarding  plastic surgery performed by Dr. VT.  There are dozens of you out there (I can already hear the giggling over the internet connection!), but many of you are not “public” so I was not able to contact you without revealing that someone had mentioned your name.

Soooooooo. . .if any of you out there are considering lipo but would like to speak to someone about it first, feel free to phone me.  (Again, I won’t be able to respond to e-mails, so please call.)  I’ll be happy to answer any of your questions, provide you with the gory details, tell you what it cost for my procedure, and whatever else you want to know.

If you would rather contact the Clinica Van Thienen directly, you can call them at 4742-9003.

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  • Cost of Living - External website for comparing cost of living around the world
  • From: pichinango, March 29, 2010

This page makes for interesting reading:

http://www.xpatulator.com
Latest International Cost of Living Ranking
Ranked from most expensive to least expensive

(1) -     Japan, Tokyo
(169) - Uruguay, Montevideo
(270) -Argentina, Buenos Aires
(275) - Zimbabwe, Harare

xpatulator

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  • Cost of Living / Health Care
     
  • From: Peter J. Macay, April 14, 2017

In Argentina hospital health care is free to everyone, whether you are a visiting tourist or an Argentine citizen.  However, we choose to obtain private medical coverage with Hospital Alemán.

There are several high end private health care companies like Hospital Alemán (German Hospital), they also have the British Hospital, Italian, French and Swiss Hospital providers, etc.

We paid (in US Dollars) for our Hospital Alemán in November of 2001 (This was just before the financial economic crisis in December 2001, before that the Argentina peso was pegged 1 to 1 with the USA dollar for 10 years)

Ron: USA $231 / month
Pete: USA $115 / month

Today, nearly 17 years later, we are paying (in equivalent U.S. Dollars)

Ron: USA $456 (in pesos: $7,188) / month
Pete: USA $290 (in pesos: $4,575) / month

Calculations:

percent increase = (456-231)/231 = 97.4% 97.4/17 = 5.73% per year
percent increase = (290-115)/115 = 152.2% 152.2/17 = 8.95% per year

So, even though the prices in the supermarket seem to be going up daily with inflation and the value of the Argentina Peso, the cost of our private medical coverage has not increased dramatically if you are buying the coverage with USA dollars.

    From: From: anjalbright

Last year it was something like an 18% increase, this year, it's up nearly 25%. We have Medicus, but I'm guessing other providers will be doing the same. Just thought I'd get the topic rolling again and see if everyone else is experiencing the same thing. Thoughts?

    From: Peter J. Macay, December 01, 2007

We have Hospital Aleman and we just received our Dec bill:

Ron: Increase from: 614 / To: 735 pesos a month

Pete: Increase from: 374 / To: 448

A 19.7% increase in one month. In the beginning of the year it went up 3 times in 6 months. Since Dec of 2006, it has gone up 41%.

Here are my calculations, prices in pesos. 

Note: Prices before 2002 was when the Argentine peso was pegged 1 to 1 with the USA dollar.  After the financial crisis of December 2001 the Argentine peso floated to about 3 Argentine pesos to 1 USA dollar which accounts for the high percentage increases seen for 2002.

Hosp-1-2010

Hosp-2-2011

The yearly % change over 9 years is simple interest, not compounded, so it's not exactly correct, but gives you an idea that over 9 years our health care as averaged over a 42% yearly increase.

    From: Deby Novitz, December 01, 2007

I have English students at Swiss Medical. (Executives)  The rise in insurance rates is mandated by the government.  The government tells them how much they can raise their rates.  It is a group decision, not one by one with each of the companies.  When one raises their rates,  they all raise and at the same percentage.

The letter sent out is drafted by the government and put on the letterhead of the company sending it to its enrollees.  What you are going to find is that essentially the plans and prices are close to the same for all the companies.

The rates were stablized for companies who provide group plans to their employees.  It was not stablized nor was their any protection for people like us, who purchase private insurance. The other thing I did not know is that we help to subsidize the public health services.  The prepagos must give the government a percentage of their profit.

Swiss Medical and Osde are a litlle more expensive (but not much).  However when you compare the size of the cartilla of these companies (the provider network) you need to weigh the benefit of a smaller cost and more doctors available to you.  My health care providers say they are the easiest to work with.

    From: chegringo57, December 03, 2007

Just throwin' my hat in the ring once again for Staff Medico.  Staff Medico is the cheapest. OSDE will rob you blind. I pay 540 pesos for an entire family of 4.  I'm with Staff Medico and very pleased with it. Contact me if you would like a sales rep (who speaks Spanish).web site: http://www.staffmedico.com.ar/

For 2 adults, and 2 wee little ones:

Dec: 540 PesosNovember: 449 Pesos

Also a 19.7% increase. However, we were quoted a lower rate for December, so we're calling tomorrow to figure it out. However, it is still leaps and bounds lower than what I've been reading for the rest of you's.

    From: jasonphos, December 03, 2007

OSDE 310 Plan. 23% increase. My wife, myself and our son. November - 731 pesos/month. Dec - 899

We're going to have to switch to the 210 plan soon, if not this year, the next :) From: Justin Martindale, December 04, 2007

The best seem to be OSDE or MEDICUS and I know that with OSDE you can buy protection outside of Argentina. Everyone seems to have their favorite. Right now I pay 470 pesos per month and that will go up next month to around 580 pesos for OSDE. Or you can take your chances and if you get sick, go to the emergency room at a public hospital. Some are actually OK. Also, you can just pay to see a doctor; last time I did that it was around 50 pesos.

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  • Cost of Living - Inflation Percentage Changes - 2003 to Present

This is not an all inclusive to every cost involved in living here, but just some idea of how prices are changing after the financial melt down crisis we had in December of 2001.  Before December of 2001 the Argentine peso was pegged 1 to 1 with the USA dollar for 10 years, now it is floating.

Cost of Living

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Prices in Pesos

 

 

 

 

 

2003

2004

2006

2009

% increase per year 2003-2006

% increase per year 2003-2009

Favorite Neighborhood Parrilla Delivery

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 morcilla

 $      3.00

 

 $      5.00

 

22%

 

2 chorizo   

 $      4.00

 

 $      5.00

 

8%

 

1 mollejas

 $     10.00

 

 $     17.00

 

23%

 

1 bife de chorizo

 $     10.00

 

 $     18.00

 

27%

 

1/2 pollo deshuesado

 $      8.00

 

 $     13.00

 

21%

 

1 papa fritas

 $      2.50

 

 $      4.50

 

27%

 

Total for El Yugo delivery

 $     37.50

 

 $     62.50

 $     92.00

22%

24%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Movie Tickets - Gen Adm

 

 $11.50

 $     14.75

 $     23.00

14%

20%

Movie Tickets - Senior

 

 $  6.50

 $      9.75

 $     23.00

25%

51%

Buses

 

 $     0.75

 $      0.75

 $      1.20

0%

12%

Taxis / meter starts at

 

 $     1.44

 $      1.98

 $      3.80

19%

33%

Medical Insurance - Ron

 

 $ 404.00

 $   522.00

 $1,045.00

15%

32%

Medical Insurance - Pete

 

 $ 248.00

 $   318.50

 $   665.00

14%

34%

3 bife de chorizo steaks in supermarket

 

 $     9.00

 $     12.00

 $     23.00

17%

31%

Gas / every 2 months

 

 $   17.00

 $     16.63

 $     16.54

-1%

-1%

Fibertel Internet

 

 $ 105.00

 $   140.00

 $   145.00

17%

8%

Fibertel cable TV / no premium channels

 

 $   56.00

 $     65.90

 $   107.00

9%

18%

Water / every 2 months

 

 $   69.00

 $     64.71

 $     65.00

-3%

-1%

Electricity / every 2 months

 

 $   64.00

 $     91.51

 $     93.00

21%

9%

Telephone / every 2 months

 

 $   65.00

 $     65.15

 $     95.00

0%

9%

1 hour massages

 

 $   20.00

 $     40.00

 $   100.00

50%

80%

1 hour yoga class

 

 $   10.00

 $     15.00

 

25%

 

Gym membership / yearly

 

 $ 580.00

 $   780.00

 $1,980.00

17%

48%

Groceries / 2 people / monthly

 

 $ 707.00

 $1,111.00

 $   795.00

29%

2%

Dental crown

 

 

 $   900.00

 

 

 

Dental - ceramic fillin around gums / per tooth

 

 $   50.00

 

 

 

 

Dental - tooth molds for whitening

 

 $ 120.00

 

 

 

 

Dental - whitening agent

 

 $ 250.00

 

 

 

 

Dental - cleaning

 

 $   65.00

 

 

 

 

Prescription glasses replaced

 

 $ 300.00

 

 

 

 

Scuzi large pizza with everything "Pizza Scuzi"

 

 

 

 $     44.00

 

 

Scuzi / restaurant delivery

 

 $   22.00

 $     37.50

 $     54.00

35%

29%

Sushi / delivery "Combo dos"

 $     42.00

 $   56.50

 $     66.00

 $   105.00

19%

25%

Apartment monthly expenses

 

 $ 400.00

 $   583.00

 

23%

 

Wine in restaurant

 

 $   12.00

 $     25.00

 

54%

 

Haircut Pete

 

 $   18.00

 $     25.00

 $     52.00

19%

38%

Haircut Ron

 

 $   16.00

 $     17.00

 $     32.00

3%

20%

Gin - 750 ml - Hiram Walker

 

 $     6.99

 $      8.00

 $     13.00

7%

17%

Favorite Chinese Delivery

 

 

 

 

 

 

empanada a la plancha (8 pot stickers)

 

 $     5.00

 $      5.00

 $     10.00

0%

20%

sopa de agripicante

 

 $     4.00

 $      5.00

 $     10.00

13%

30%

verduras mixta

 

 $   11.00

 $     12.00

 $     23.00

5%

22%

chau fan c/cerdo

 

 $     7.00

 $      8.00

 $     17.00

7%

29%

arroz blanco

 

 $     2.00

 $      2.50

 $      6.00

13%

40%

pollo saltado con almendras

 

 $   13.00

 $     17.00

 $     32.00

15%

29%

pollo "Kong Poa" (picante)

 

 $   12.00

 $     13.00

 $     27.00

4%

25%

pescados con salsa de curry

 

 $   15.00

 $     18.00

 $     30.00

10%

20%

calamares con salsa agripicante

 

 $   15.00

 $     18.00

 $     38.00

10%

31%

    From: Peter J. Macay, May 31, 2006

YIKES!  Ouch! 
 
We received our Hospital Alemán bills today for full medical coverage.
 
Ron's went from 483.50 to 522.00
Mine went from 295.00 to 318.50
 
Both an 8% increase in ONE month, I guess they need to pay for that new extension they're building.
 
One year ago - June 2005
443.50 - Ron
273.50 - Pete
 
An increase of 17.7% increase in one year for Ron
An increase of 16.4% increase in one year for Pete
 
Oct 2000 when we first obtained the coverage
This is before the crisis when it was 1 USA $ = 1 Arg Peso
214.00 - Ron
112.00 - Pete
 
143.9% in almost 6 years or 23.9% increase a year
184.3% increase, or 30.7% increase per year
 
Hmmmm, maybe we should start comparing medical plans.

See: Cost of Living / Health Care above

YIKES!  Ouch!  We just ordered Chinese delivery and it was 74.50.  Hmmmmm, maybe we should start comparing chinese delivery joints.  Hmmmmpth!

    From: Philip McDonald,  June 01, 2006

While the increase in your medical subscription is high, it is not as high as you think.

In Peso terms, the average annual increase over the six year period (2000 - 20006) is just 16% for Ron and 19% for Pete. This is taking compounding into account.

So order another Chinese and get a bottle of champagne to celebrate.

    From: Benjamin J. Schwartz, September 03, 2006

The cost of living is rising but relatively low: One bedroom in San Telmo (800 pesos).  Cup of coffee (3 pesos). Bottle of decent wine (10 pesos). Bottle of cheap wine (2 pesos).  Nice dinner for two with wine (60 pesos). Subway ride (70 centavos). Bus ride (80 centavos).  Two night excursion to Montevideo, all transportation included, two nights at Sheraton Four Points Hotel, with breakfast buffet included, for one person (300 pesos). Liter of milk (1.80 pesos). Movie at a theater on Monday (6 pesos). DVD rental (3 pesos). Joining the Italian Hospital comprehensive health plan (160 pesos/month).

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  • Cost of Living - What things cost in July 2004
  • From: Peter J. Macay, July 2004

Someone posted a message on what things cost here, and what it would cost to live here comfortably.  This got my wheels cranking and I thought I would give my experience on what it costs to live here at this point and time in history.

In January 2002 Argentina went off a 10 year peg of 1 Peso = 1 USA dollar, the currency devalued to a current value of about 2.9 Pesos = 1 USA dollar, however, prices haven’t gone up that much in restaurants or for clothes (some would argue with me on this).  I think of it this way, a meal in a good restaurant here is in pesos about what you would pay in a restaurant in California in USA dollars, about $16 to $25 Pesos here, and in California you would pay about $16 to $25 dollars.  However, that $16 to $25 Peso dinner here costs you about $5.50 to $8.60 USA.   However, in many local restaurants you can get great dinners for 7 Pesos or $2.40 USA. You can see Argentina is a great bargain right now.

Like any city in the world, prices vary by neighborhood and "tu cara", (your face) and how you dress, believe me, once I open my mouth to speak, prices go UP.  People even look at my clothes and start speaking to me in English before I ever open my mouth.  Argentine friends groan when I tell them what I pay for things.  An Argentine friend of mine spit wine across the table when I told her what I paid for our dining room light!

Ron and I, in my opinion, are both frugal, by frugal I mean we watch what we spend money on, compare prices and look for values, we spend money on things that matter to us, like sushi and vacations.  We don't have a car, you don't really need one if you live in the city, buses here are cheap, safe and fast, taxis are EVERYWHERE and very cheap also.  The subway is also cheap, safe and faster then buses, but there are only 5 lines so it doesn't cover the city really well like in Paris.  Another thing to remember is Argentines are VERY frugal, they will act like you're ripping their heart out no matter what they charge, it seems to be part of their culture, to get the most money from anyone they can and avoid paying any taxes, it's not that you're a foreigner, they do the same thing to their brother or sister, (Please no offense to my Argentine friends, but I think you will agree this stereotype is true!)

That said, just to give you some numbers, here's some info from our Excel budget (That's Ron's job, I just spend it, he tracks it)

Like anywhere bargains can be found, we happen to live in an expensive part of the city so you have to search or travel further for real bargains.  Basmati rice for 22 pesos a box is NOT an option for me, it's a necessity, I could NOT LIVE without it.  For me, trying to budget myself, I always want to budget on the high end, so that if I can get things cheaper, I have money left over, instead of budgeting for something lower and then not being able to find things that inexpensively.  That's why I quoted the clothes prices as what you see in the stores on Sante Fe, that's "regular" store prices, not discount prices.

I was surprised when I looked at Ron's spreadsheet and I saw how much we spend on groceries, eating in restaurants and deliveries, many of my friends don't earn 700 pesos a month at their jobs, and that's what we're spending on groceries and restaurant meals alone!

Pete’s List for What things Cost in Buenos Aires / Circa July 2004

Everything below is in pesos, to get USA dollar amounts, for this date and time divide all figures by 2.90, http://www.dolarhoy.com.ar or http://www.dolarsi.com  to check on current exchange rates.

  • Prices are going up, but I think you can still get a nice modest 1 bedroom in a good part of town for 1,000 pesos a month.  An Argentine friend negotiated a 5 year lease for 800 pesos a month on a HUGE 2 bedroom apartment, in fantastic shape in a great, safe part of the city.  I have a friend paying 250 pesos a month for a small one room studio right around the corner from us in Recoleta, but he's been there several years.
  • Of course there are still places that rent for 250 pesos a month, but usually in an undesirable part of town, again, there are always exceptions to any rule.
  • We purchased an apartment in an expensive part of town and we pay about 400 pesos a month for home owners association dues for a 125 square meter (that's about 1,200 square feet), that includes our heat, hot water, 24 hour security, a garage, garbage, and maintenance of our building.
  • My friend who lives in not such a nice part of town pays 60 pesos a month for his expenses for a small 35 square meter studio.
  • Even if you rent, you have to ask about who pays the expenses and what's included (like water, gas, heating of the apartment, etc), some owners make the renter pay them, some have it included in the rent.
  • Movies in the newest, most comfortable cinemas are 11.50 pesos for admission, 6.50 for seniors, however, there are lots of theatres showing movies that are a few months old for 4 pesos for a double feature. 
  • Food prices have been going up, but in general the cost in restaurants is pretty stable from before the crisis.  We just had dinner in our favorite neighborhood mom and pop restaurant for 55 pesos for 2 people, that included appetizers, salad, a bottle of wine, 2 entrees and a free little shot of lemon liquor (we were too stuffed to order dessert), there are lots of "fast food" parrilla places where you can get a choripan sandwich (a wonderful sausage sandwich big enough for a meal) for 1.50 pesos for lunch.
  • Lunch specials for 7-8 pesos in nice "regular" neighborhood restaurants are everywhere, this includes an entree, dessert, salad and some sort of drink, usually served on a white linen tablecloth  by someone wearing a little bow tie and crisp white shirt (Argentines have a lot of class and style).
  • Buses cost 75 to 80 centavos depending on how far you are going, they don't do transfers here so every time you need to change lines you have to pay again.  However, the bus system is great here and you usually don't have to change lines unless you're going really far.
  • Taxis start at 1.44 pesos when you sit down, a 20 minute trip to most parts of the city cost around 8 pesos.  Tipping is not expected in a cab.
  • People LOVE live entertainment here, there are cafe / restaurant / bookstore places EVERYWHERE where you might pay 5 pesos cover charge to see some live music for 1.5 - 3 hours, a great way to sit and let your late Argentine meal digest while you enjoy some music while sipping some inexpensive champagne.
  • Good red table wines in the supermarket can be found for 8-12 pesos, pay 15 and you'll be saying "OH MY GOD IS THIS GOOD!!!!"
  • Restaurants are starting to raise what they charge for wines, in the supermarket it cost 8 pesos and you'll pay 12 in the restaurant, but I still think the markup percentage is much less then what the USA does.
  • In the past, tipping in restaurants was not expected, that's rapidly changing, especially if you don't speak fluent Spanish, but 5 - 10% is considered good.
  • You can have a single cup of coffee delivered, I AM NOT making this up.  They deliver anything here, usually there is no minimum amount, you can have your groceries delivered for free so you don't have to lug them home, we usually tip the kid 1 or 2 pesos and they are very pleased.  We have our cat litter delivered as it's so heavy and the kid arrives on roller blades!
  • Don't forget private medical insurance, Ron pays 404 pesos a month, I pay 248.  However, this is at one of the private hospitals that is considered one of the best, Ron had some surgery and was in there for 4 days and we paid 6 pesos for the bottled water he drank.  There are companies that charge much less, make sure you know the deductibles you need to pay to compare different plans.  An Argentine friend pays 150 for a plan that he thinks is amazing in that they cover everything.
  • In general, prescription drugs are much less expensive here then in the USA
  • Ron had his prescription eye glasses replaced for 300 pesos (they used his old frames)
  • I had my teeth cleaned for 65 pesos
  • Some dental work was 50 pesos per tooth
  • Teeth molds to have my teeth whitened 120 pesos
  • Bleaching agent was 250 pesos
  • We paid 30 pesos each to see the violinist Joshua Bell perform at the Colón theatre, their premier opera house, Ron was in heaven.
  • Clothes are about the same "amounts" as in the USA except of course here they're in pesos, so think 35 pesos for a pair of slacks, shoes for 80 pesos, coats for 125 pesos.  There are of course discount cloth stores where you can get TShirts or gym shorts for 5 pesos or you can go to Patio Bullrich (an expensive mall) and pay 300 pesos for a silk tie.
  • 3 HUGE rib eye steaks in the supermarket are less then 9 pesos.
  • Our favorite gin is 6.99 pesos for a 750ml bottle, AND IT'S GOOD GIN!!!!!!!!  Goes great with Paseo de los Torros Pomelo lite (a grapefruit drink), try it, you'll like it, very refreshing!
  • We have sushi delivered for 56.50 pesos that is enough to stuff 2 sushi lovers and have the gyozo left over for lunch the next day.
  • "Scuzi" (a pretty good chain restaurant) delivers 2 delicious dinners with spicy toasted bread for 22 pesos.
  • "Rigolleto" (a very good yuppie restaurant) delivers full meals for 9.50 pesos including salad, bread, entree, dessert and drink.
  • "Crazy Cheese" (I love the name) is a hole in the wall place that delivers a whole rotisserie chicken for 13 pesos, it used to cost 8 pesos and you got 2 beers with it but after the crisis in 2001 you only got one beer, then no beer, then the price started going up.
  • Gas for our stove is 17 pesos every 2 months, our heat and hot water is covered in our home owners expenses
  • Fibertel cable modem service for the computer is 105 pesos every month
  • If you don't use the computer a lot, http://www.internetgratis.com.ar is free internet service or use the PCs at any locotorio (businesses that offer telephones, fax and copying services) for 1.50 pesos an hour.
  • Cable TV is 56 pesos a month, this is with no "pay" channels but just basic service of about 35 channels
  • Water is 69 pesos for 2 months, they don't use water meters here, it's based on the square footage of your apartment
  • Electricity 64 pesos for 2 months
  • Telephone 65 pesos every 2 months, this is for basic service and does not include long distance
  • I like to cook so we eat at home a lot, for the first 6 months of this year we've averaged 707 pesos a month for groceries for 2 people.  I must admit I don't scrimp on grocery items, we eat a lot of salmon and fish which is a little pricey here, we buy imported basmati rice for 22 pesos a box (Argentines faint when they see we paid this for a box of "rice"), brie cheeses, cheap caviar, etc.
  • 1 hour massages are 30-40 pesos (I get one a week)
  • 1 hour yoga class 10 pesos
  • I pay 580 pesos a year for a gym membership
  • Music CDs are 16-24 pesos, there are street vendors who sell illegal copies on the street for 6 pesos, but I don't like to support illegal copying of things.  These illegal vendors are totally ignored by the police, it is acceptable I guess.
  • You can buy designer rip-off underwear on the street for 3 pesos, REALLY!
  • If you buy batteries, make sure they say Duracell, NOT DuraBle, boy was I pissed on these cleverly disguised rip-offs that look identical but only last about 15 minutes (Duracell's last 6 hours)
  • Maids are very common here, I think they earn between 5 and 7.50 pesos an hour (I wouldn't know, Ron won't let me get one)  An Argentine friend gasped in disbelief when I said I didn't have a maid, she said, "They are the pillars of our society, without them we would crumble!"
  • Lots of things are imported, cameras, appliances, digital cams, watches, batteries and razors for shaving, so they will cost the same in pesos as in dollars in the USA, lots of my friends can't listen to their Walkmans anymore because they can't afford the batteries.
  • A really great milanesa (fried steak) sandwich big enough to feed two people is 4 pesos.
  • The best bet is to get some Argentine friends and ask them where they shop for things.

Sound interesting to you?  Want to live here?  We’re not here because it’s cheap, but it sure is a nice perk at the moment!

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  • Cowhide Rug
  • From: Gina-Marie Gattone, August 25, 2006

There's a place just off of Plaza Serrano called "calma chicha".  It's located on Honduras about 1 block away from the Plaza in the direction of Scalabrini Ortiz.  You should be able to find all of your cowhide needs there.  And why not make that table that you saw by yourself here? It's so easy! That sounds like such a fun project!

Interestingly enough, there's a store in the same direction a little further down the same street that carries some high end Asian/African imports with unique accents and accessories.  It's a lovely store with a beautiful interior.  If you get out that way, check it out.

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  • Cranberry Juice
  • From: Sugar & Spice, May 14, 2007

Your best bet would be Jumbo supermarket. You have one in Palermo. To get the exact address you can go to the following web site:

http://www.jumbo.com.ar/jumbo/site/Jumbo/Acerca%20de%20Jumbo/Locales/index.html 

Their parent company also owns Disco so sometimes you get to find some of the similar stuff in their stores but not always.

You can also find some Mexican foods, American, German, etc. However, they do tend to run out of stuff until they get their next batch of imported goodies.

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  • Crème Fraîche / Buttermilk to make Crème Fraîche
  • From: Rick Jones, July 4, 2007

If you've been looking for crème fraîche, or buttermilk to make crème fraîche, here's some good news...

The New York Times had an article this past Sunday about making butter from cream.  It's very, very easy to do at home.  And it turns out, buttermilk is the natural byproduct of this process.  

So I made some butter from creme (it tastes great), and ended up with a bunch of buttermilk left over. Using the standard recipe of 1 cup of creme and 1 tablespoon of buttermilk, I turned around and made some decent crème fraîche.

Here's the original article from the New York Times...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/magazine/01food-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin 

...and here are three related articles that Dan Perlman, of Casa Saltshaker, was kind enough to forward to me...

http://wednesdaychef.typepad.com/the_wednesday_chef/2007/07/homemade-butter.html 

http://www.travelerslunchbox.com/journal/200July_6,_21/getting-some-culture.html   

http://blog.ruhlman.com/ruhlmancom/2007/07/better-butter.html

Enjoy!

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  • CUIL - Codigo Unico de Identificacion Laboral
  • From: Julio Cesar Losua, February 1, 2010

Re: How does one obtain a CUIL number? I have a CUIT number- is it the same process? Or do I need residence in order to get a CUIL number?

What you need to have a CUIL (Codigo Unico de Identificacion Laboral) number is to have a DNI. If you have on go to this website( http://www.anses.gov.ar/autopista/servicios/destacados/cuil/cuil.php  ) and in no time you get your CUIL, and free. It's better to prin it out.

Thereps no way to obtain th CUIL without a DNI, CUIT is to pay taxes if you work on your own, but if you work for a company, school, etc,etc you need the CUIL and the only way to get it is with the DNI or libreta civica ( for womer over 60) or libreta de enrolamiento(man over 60)

Saludos,
Julio

cuil

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  • Cuisine / Local Foods
  • From: Rick Jones, September 03, 2006

See Restaurant Review for: "El Sanjuanino"

Actually, I eat in Sanjuanino whenever I'm in the neighborhood around lunchtime.  I love the empanadas.  So when my quest for good locro began, that was one of the first places I tried.  And unfortunately, I was kind of disappointed.  The San Juanino locro was a tad too thin and starchy for me.  But I never judge a place like that by just one meal, and I was planning on stopping by tomorrow (when I have to be in the neighborhood again) for a second shot at it.  I'll let you know how it goes.

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  • Cultural Exchange Organization
  • From: Frances Perry, June 13, 2003

Pan American Cultural Exchange is an organization dedicated to promoting the common goodwill and welfare among the people of the Americas through artistic cultural exchange programs. The organization works to advance all artistic endeavors, including performing and visual arts, literature, as well as facilitating the implementation of institutional relationships between the Americas. Pan American Cultural Exchange seeks to foster cultural understanding and appreciation, utilizing the arts as a common language, so as to inspire, educate, and unite the diverse people of the Americas

For more information on Pan-American Cultural Exchange, Houston please visit www.pacefund.org 

*For more information please visit www.bcl.edu.ar 

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